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Sarah G. Young's avatar

Oh how I wonder this too Christine.... "I wonder about how to break through religious people’s psyches and say “Hey, what if you’re not a worthless piece of scum apart from Jesus after all?”" I think holding beliefs like that causes actual psychological and physiological damage... And the breakthrough to the other side, to realizing there is wholeness and goodness in yourself, is not an easy process. It requires a leap of faith in itself to even begin to think, "wait, maybe this sin/retribution framework is actually harmful."

It reminds me of an older woman I knew through church, who was a gentle and caring person to me for several years and whom I really respect... But one of her favorite topics to talk about in Bible studies was how bad sin really is. About "the sinfulness of sin" and how "amazing" it is that God could love such rotten sinners like us! For her it somehow inspired her to praise God for his grace. But for me this framework only made me think less of myself, not any better of God. But I have friends who make this their life motto, like this lyric from a worship song, "My sins they are many, his mercy is more." I guess thinking less of yourself can inspire you to think of a God who's so much better, you can't even imagine it... But it becomes so detached from any real definitions that it's just a vague sense of awe. Now it just breaks my heart at how deeply this runs, and I wonder too, how expansive the level of healing would have to be for any of this to change.

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Catherine Quiring's avatar

I definitely remember hearing that story about the candy cane as a kid. And I am so sensitive to what my kids hear too. It's hard to know when it's our stuff and when it will affect our kids. I could tell you lots of stories of when I got triggered and upset, but I couldn't tell if affected my kids most of the time. But this one did affect my kids: my 5 year old daughter started worrying that the bathwater was going to turn to blood after hearing about the plagues in Egypt.

There's so much unlearning to do to be open to self-trust isn't there? It has taken me about as long as it took to not trust myself to fully trust myself again (20 years indoctrination, 20 years learning to trust myself again.)

For me learning that emotions are clues instead of problems (i.e. indictments against us) was a turning point for me.

If you want to hear what this looks like for me as a therapist and coach, I often start with noticing something that doesn't have a sin-judgment attached to it, like can you tell what it's like in your body when you think about a food you like or a food you don't like? What's the difference? Can you listen to that in your life - what you like or don't like? And education around our bodies are meant to tell us when they don't feel safe. Would it be okay to notice that without shutting it down so fast?

Thank you for this space and your reflections, Christine. It feels so good to not be alone in this.

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