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This is so, so well written. What you express here about how you experienced certain aspects of your upbringing maps onto mine in many ways, but you've described it with so much more clarity (and succinctness) than I have ever seemed capable of in terms of what you learned, what your thoughts and feelings ended up being and why.

I have talked to quite a few people who grew up going to Christian churches over the years about my religious trauma and asked them if they can relate. Mostly, they can't. Time and again, I have heard them describe how the Bible landed with them as a love story. Really?! Genocide, slavery, gang rape, animal sacrifice, child abuse, mysogyny, extremism, retribution, vengeance ... That's what love looks like to them?!? How does that work?

For so long, I just couldn't figure out how their brain could have come away from having been pumped full of Bible stories in such a different state than mine did. What I see in the Bible is cruelty, gaslighting, manipulation, vengeance, and so, so, so much violence both physical and emotional. How can other people look at this same book and see love?

And then I began to wonder if there might be some mediating factor, such as how their parents treated them. As in, if they attended Sunday school and learn about, oh, I don't know, eternal *&^%$ torture after death in hell for them and everyone they love unless they can make themselves admire the type of deity that would behave that way in the first place, they just write it off, somehow, because it does not match with the mostly loving treatment they've received from their parents. Their brain just kind of discards the whole idea of hell or punishment or vengeance somehow due to things like that being outside their experience? Their brain auto-discards whichever portions of the theology don't work for them and their health/sanity/sense of wellbeing???

Its almost as though instead of taking it to heart what they are taught, instead of them taking it literally, due to something their brain does for them (i.e. goes with the empirical evidence from their actual life over the speculations of an ancient book), they walk away from even the most hateful, terrifying, violent and enraging teachings with their sanity in tact. Their parents have been more or less supportive of them and they have all these file folders of experiences with that. That's what love looks like to them, how their parents have *actually* behaved, and so, when they look at the Bible, they are able to see the Bible through that lens? (Or, more accurately, unable to see the Bible through any lens but that lens, the one forged for them in the experiences of love and support, over all, from their parents.) And so when the Bible says, "God is love," they conclude (!?!?) there must be some way it's all going to work out? That some how, some way, God will, in the end, be patient, gentle, and kind, as their parents have been?

This seems unfathomable to me.

All the horrible behavior of the Christian deity I had beaten into me at church ***was a match*** to how my parents behaved. Cruelty was the reality of my lived experience at home, so it made sense to me to take the Bible at face value. It describes an emotionally immature deity that behaves erratically, unreasonably, and most of all, cruelly.

So this is the only way I can explain this phenomenon. That how parents treat their kids will strongly mediate how religious doctrines land with the kids.

This is even true of a close friend of mine, S., who grew up in a house with an alcoholic father who beat him so severely and so often that S. had to wear long sleeves and long pants to school year round to cover up the bruises. The father screamed at S. often, too, in anger. But what the father *never* did was ****shame**** S. My friend S. seems to describe having been on the receiving end of what we might call "clean" anger, just anger pure and simple--anger with no mix-in of disgust (i.e. contempt, the anger we see from parents such as mine, the parents who rule by "shame on you!!!" and "how dare you!!!"). S. tells me that he hated his father growing up. And even once struck his father so hard, S. broke some fingers. But never once, says S., can he recall feeling bad ****about himself***** with all this violent treatment. (Unfathomable to me. I cannot imagine what my life would have been and who I would be without shame. It was the warp and woof of my entire existence growing up.) And when I ask S. (who, on his own, as a teenager, read the Bible from cover to cover and attended church weekly the whole time he was growing up, although, admittedly at a very love-y sounding Catholic church) about what he thinks of the Bible, he says, "The main message I got was love."

I think you've posited a very important research question, Christine. Thank you for this enriching and thought-provoking post. I hope you'll use the psy credentials you *do* have (which are fancier than those of 99% of those of the population of the U.S., I'd bet) to look into this further. :)

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Lots of interesting ideas here! It is also interesting how siblings (even close in age) can have vastly different experiences growing up in the same family, same church, same church camp, and so on. It is interesting to compare stories with my sibling now and notice the different things we absorbed from the same people/events. So, maybe that gives some anecdotal support for the neurodivergent aspects of your hypothesis.

My sibling and I had a good talk earlier this year about how we weren't abused, and we were provided for growing up, but that something was lacking. I really think now that I have done so much healing and re-parenting for myself that my parents did the best they could, but just weren't emotionally aware or emotionally mature. So, we just all muddled our way through. One of my parents has grown a lot in the last couple decades. I don't think it is a coincidence that this parent is the one who has practically left the church.

The paragraph you wrote about trying to be good and to feel the Jesus in your heart really resonated with me. I also picked up on (as a youngster) the wrath and cruelty and inconsistencies in the bible. That just fed the fears that I wasn't "doing it right". The adults in my life were really not dialed in at all to what was going on with me. Fortunately I did feel pretty secure in knowing I was constantly loved, particularly from one grandmother.

Thanks so much for your writing. I also finally don't feel so alone in this journey.

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