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This. Is. Brilliant. So well written!!!! It should be required reading for anyone anywhere who teaches people how to do therapy, who administers a therapy practice and/or people already providing therapy. Like the old person I am, I have copied and pasted this post into a Word document and saved it to my computer. I plan to show it to any and all therapists I hire for myself going forward. Thank you so much, Christine, for taking the time to write this, really thinking all this through.

Everything you've written here is consistent with the research I have read about the nature of the **relationship** (e.g. characterized by non-judgmental witnessing of the client's pain?) between client and therapist being the primary determinant of the efficacy of therapy provided (as opposed to what exact therapeutic modality is used, e.g. CBT versus IFS, EMDR, SE, etc.)

However, that said, my experience has been that when it comes to healing trauma, nothing beats the somatically-focussed methods, such as IFS, EMDR, and of course SE. And the deeper the better. But how can a client be expected to "go deep" if they can't/don't trust the therapist? Of course they can't unless the rapport is there. Trust must be earned. And nothing in the way of "concrete, measurable progress" can occur if the client does not feel safe enough with the therapist (or that the therapist is competent enough to "get" the client).

One of the traits I have noticed of my fellow RTSers (folks with Religious Trauma Syndrome) is a tendency at sometimes to retreat into intellectualizing as a way of avoiding confronting, or, even more threatening, accepting, and communing with, certain sensations and/or emotions that fundamentalist religionistas would deem "sinful" or "dangerous" or "disgusting." This type of dissociation and/or living "in one's head" is consistent with living in a body whose mind has become a torture chamber after one has been threatened she must, upon pain of eternal conscious torment for failing to think the "correct" thoughts and thus feel the "correct" feelings--also known as ***believe*** the right way, "take every thought captive" by any means necessary, so, likely by force, as in efforting in the style of self-shaming, living the adrenalized lifestyle style that we the dopamine-starved who've exiled our hypothalamus for its "sinfulness" are destined to lead, **striving** to love what we hate--by sheer force of will. Retreating out of the body and up into one's mind, abandoning the body, trying to extinguish or at least displace the supposedly corrupt self that is supposedly corrupt due to one's own sinfulness, to replace that self with Some Punitive Adoration-seeking Mind-reading Spirit (SPAMS) is consistent with the brain damage many traumatized children's bodies show, which is an unusually large prefrontal cortex.

So, yeah. I share your hatred of CBT. (Although I did save my own life with it in the early '90s, when I was instructed in it from the almost totally emotionally tone-deaf therapist at the student health center assigned to take my case--poor him--at the university I was attending when I had my apostasy and became viciously suicidal. Ironically, the only reason I did not kill myself was my fear of being sent to hell by evangelical Christianity's "all-loving" and "all-powerful" deity, whom I had finally realized I was just not able to love).

Dashing to get this posted. Triaging a crisis with our little foster dog, here. But wanted to say well done. And thank you so, so very much. 30 billion other units of insight to articulate, but can't right now. All the love and all the power to you, my dear friend.

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Thank you. I’ve said for years that I can’t go to CBT or consciously use it because of how it was overtly (in our church of the time) linked to taking thoughts captive and being transformed by the renewing of your mind. The whole thing makes me squirm, feel sick, and guilty. It is so good to hear someone talking about this link and confirming my experience.

I’ve seen therapists who have used a person centred approach, my current one very much so - which is hard work because I have to decide what to talk about, and then talk my way through it, to find my own realisations and answers … which is hard, but which also suits me rather than have ‘answers’ presented.

And the not believing in a wrathful God who will send me to eternal conscious torment in hell…but being scared of ending up suffering ect in hell… oh spot on!

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